Today, host Lorie Jones is joined by Lisa Eyer, the powerhouse VP of Client Experience & Business Insights for Consero Global. From her beginnings at Citibank to a dynamic 23-year run at First Data, Lisa’s career journey is nothing short of inspiring.
Get ready to hear her bold transitions, the wisdom behind continuous learning, and why genuine connections matter. Plus, Lisa shares her top book picks and invaluable advice for young women in male-dominated fields.
This episode will ignite your drive and empower your professional journey.
Show Highlights:
- Discover two empowering must-have books to fuel your journey. [00:02:31]
- How sensible work during college can build great careers. [00:04:19]
- Insights on choosing continuous learning investments. [00:08:40]
- Wisdom on separating the personal from the professional. [00:12:02]
- Why maximizing travel and spontaneity is worth your time. [00:14:57]
- Where do you look when you plan ahead? [00:18:04]
- Gain the ultimate self-talk tip to defeat fear with practice. [00:20:13]
- One question that could redefine your career path as a woman. [00:22:08]
- Tap into the single mother’s ability to create strong adults. [00:27:28]
- Candid advice for young women on equal relationships. [00:28:49]
To contact Lisa Eyer, go to https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisaeyer/.
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For more information about Lorie Jones, go to http://fearless-females.com/
00:02.49
loriejones7
Good morning. So we're here with Lisa Iyer. She is the VP of Client Experience and Business Insights for Cancero Global Solutions. Did I say that right, Lisa?
00:13.19
Lisa Eyer
You did, yes.
00:14.34
loriejones7
Yes. And I'm so excited to get to know you today and hear just a little bit um more about your journey. Thank you so much for doing this for us. I appreciate it.
00:22.78
Lisa Eyer
No, you're welcome. I appreciate the opportunity.
00:26.45
loriejones7
So I start with my favorite question always, which is I love reading. What is your favorite book?
00:34.94
Lisa Eyer
So I also love reading. Most of the time that reading happens on an airplane or when it can be uninterrupted. So there's some gaps between, you know, when I pick up a book. But recently there were two books that were put in front of me that I think are great books to recommend. One is called The Go-Giver. um And i I joined the crew network as a founder, and that was one of the books that they gifted to us. And I just think it's profound in terms of giving and watching it ah come back in ways that you wouldn't expect.
01:11.48
Lisa Eyer
And the second book, which again, I know you asked for one, they're two short reads. The second one is called The Energy Bus. And you you have to pick it up or you have to watch the YouTube video. But I'm a fan of the energy that you put out is the energy that returns.
01:26.28
loriejones7
Mm hmm.
01:30.92
Lisa Eyer
And sometimes um you see this in little ways every single day. If if you're quiet or you're down, um you know you you'll tend to get that back. so
01:41.17
loriejones7
Mm-hmm.
01:41.43
Lisa Eyer
take take ah Take those two recommendations and let me know if you like them.
01:46.06
loriejones7
I will. I like that idea of the the energy bust. I'm kind of working at being in my own life a little bit more. um I feel like what you sometimes you can like manifest your future. you know You have a positive attitude.
01:57.75
Lisa Eyer
Right.
01:59.36
loriejones7
You kind of put that out there, what you want out of the universe. And it does tend to come back to you. and um And so I like the idea. and And there are days, I admit, that I'm just a little bit Less energy than other days and i I walk in the office and I tell my team. I'm like, I'm sorry It's not you today. I just am having a rough day. So I Love it.
02:19.10
Lisa Eyer
We all have those days.
02:21.34
loriejones7
I'm gonna go get him so and you promised there because my stack is like this big so it's these are good
02:22.96
Lisa Eyer
right
02:27.38
Lisa Eyer
They're quick reads and you will start them and you will finish them.
02:32.60
loriejones7
Perfect. I love it. So Lisa, tell me just a little bit about your journey. um How did you get started? where What do you do today? That sort of thing. Just talk to me about that.
02:44.57
Lisa Eyer
So where I got started was, you know, it feels like many, many years ago now. ah Really, I needed to help pay for college. And so I went through a temporary agency. I had my eye set on working for a very specific company. It was a large financial institution near my college. And I just would not take no for an answer. And each time I went and and directly tried to fill out an application, they would say no. So then I realized, well, they hire from a temporary agency. So I went to the temporary agency and I said, OK, I want to work for this company. And they said, we have to make sure you have some other work experience first. Can't just put you there. It's one of our largest clients. I said, OK, put me somewhere else first.
03:33.44
Lisa Eyer
And so I finally got my foot in the door. And it was for Citibank on the credit card issuing side of the business. They also did acquiring. And my first tryout was as an executive admin. Not sure I was great at that job, but I certainly learned a lot in you know an old-fashioned data center working for some executives. And from there, ah you know the the rest became history for the next nine years.
04:04.02
Lisa Eyer
you know I was hired on permanently, and so I balanced you know college and working.
04:09.50
loriejones7
Mm hmm.
04:09.62
Lisa Eyer
And it was the the best part of the journey was kind of growing up with the company as it started to expand into different areas.
04:14.98
loriejones7
Yeah.
04:18.20
Lisa Eyer
And then one day, nine years in, um I saw an ad for job opportunities. Wasn't really looking, but thought, I'm just going to go interview. They're doing walk-in interviews. And several weeks later, I was faced with making a career decision to leave nine years behind and start all over again. And so I had my start at First Data, which was an acquiring, merchant acquiring business. And I was there for 23 years through multiple acquisitions of companies, of divestitures of companies, you know probably some of the more famous ones.
04:53.31
loriejones7
Mm
04:54.71
Lisa Eyer
It's like the spin-off of Western Union, along then Fiserv acquiring ah first data.
04:57.80
loriejones7
hmm. Yeah.
05:02.15
Lisa Eyer
And then an executive recruiter knocked on my door about two years ago and said, you know, come try this thing with us. And um she was pretty compelling. And the chief revenue officer for CanSara was just a genuine person with a huge heart that I could connect to. And so i I took the leap. I left a company after 23 years and started over again. And so that's that's what I'm doing right now.
05:34.49
loriejones7
Completely fearless. That is that it's
05:36.31
Lisa Eyer
I don't know about fearless, but willing to take the first step and hope all the rest of the steps work out.
05:43.43
loriejones7
It scares me on your behalf. I'm like, I love that. So you've got to tell me like, like finance, like you're looking at Citibank and you're like, I'm going to work there. Come heck or high water, no matter what. I am going to work there.
05:57.33
Lisa Eyer
Yeah.
05:58.06
loriejones7
Like why Citibank? Like, you know, I could see it if it was like maybe Apple or something sexy, but really.
06:07.27
Lisa Eyer
Yeah, so I think sometimes it's about geography and location. ah So in the area where my my college was, ah they happened to be one of the largest employers in the area.
06:10.81
loriejones7
um
06:18.94
Lisa Eyer
And, you know, every time I drove by their corporate um you know compound, it several buildings, I was just so impressed, right, as a young college kid with dreams of someday getting into the corner office. And I knew I needed to like take that first step and that that's where I wanted it to be. So, um you know, first company that I, you know, got placed at to prove myself was a small ah company where I was doing well, keeping an accounting. which you fast forward 30 years later. I'm back in you know a financial services company working with a lot of CEOs, CFOs, a lot of finance minds. So it's it's it's funny how life works out.
07:05.37
loriejones7
It is, and um I'll tell you, us finance minds perpetual party. We're the life of the party, I gotta say.
07:09.85
Lisa Eyer
yeah
07:12.59
loriejones7
It's not boring at all, don't believe what they tell you.
07:13.52
Lisa Eyer
Gonna let that comment just rest where it is.
07:18.51
loriejones7
So tell me a little bit about, if you look back on your on your journey and things that you've done, can you say, is there one investment that you've made in yourself where you're like, oh, I'm so glad I did that. If I didn't, my life wouldn't be where it is today.
07:33.99
Lisa Eyer
I would have to say it's it's just the investment of continuous learning. right i i I love to learn. It's just who I am. and so you know Even at a young age, you know not having a lot of money, right you put your money toward what can get me you know more. and so taking my project management, my PMP exam, right? Studying for that, investing in that, doing the Six Sigma program, um you know more recently, you know investing in corporate board certification and training.
08:12.61
Lisa Eyer
So all through my career, there's been these steps in my journey where I've said, i you know this year I'm going to do this one thing for me.
08:12.86
loriejones7
Mm hmm.
08:21.56
Lisa Eyer
And it typically is some type of you know, whether it's financial investment or time investment in how do I learn something new or different? Scuba diving falls into there somewhere. ah Although, um you know, some may say it's more more useful than than other skills, but that's just my philosophy.
08:44.39
loriejones7
Did you, did you have a way that you chose which things you were going to try or put money, you know, I have a limited, you got a limited budget, you got a limited amount of time.
08:51.78
Lisa Eyer
Yeah.
08:54.12
loriejones7
Like, how did you choose?
08:56.74
Lisa Eyer
I looked at two things. Did I need something invested in so that it could help me professionally, personally, and then I made my decision? and so For me, I'll take my PMP exam as a ah good example. At that point in my career, Project management skills were highly valued, highly sought out, and that became an investment that really did manifest itself into career opportunities for me. I was able to take that education and that certification
09:34.07
Lisa Eyer
and invested in um starting a PMO at Citibank. And then again, you know moving to first data and using that experience and that certification and credentials to help establish, again, PMO processes and put standards in place and bring teams together.
09:50.74
loriejones7
Mm
09:53.87
Lisa Eyer
So that one investment really repaid for itself many times over.
09:56.13
loriejones7
hmm.
09:59.27
Lisa Eyer
And now, as I you know invested in the corporate board program, that's an investment. I expect that that will have a payback. And you know I received more out of that investment than what I could have ever imagined with the network of women that I've met and and Michelle, who leads that program.
10:18.74
loriejones7
Yeah, that's that's amazing. And I do think it's so important to remember that they to take the time, and I always tell my team, I'm like, take the time to invest in you, like really look at what um where you wanna go and kind of spend some time. They always say, don't work in your business, work on your business. Well, I i consider you your own business, and you should kind of say, how should I invest in this business of me?
10:39.84
Lisa Eyer
Thank you.
10:47.89
loriejones7
to help me get where I want to go. So I like that. I like learning too. So maybe I'm biased, right?
10:54.32
Lisa Eyer
Nerds Unite.
10:55.64
loriejones7
I know. I tell my kids all the time, they they come home with a you know boyfriend or a significant other and I'm like, I like nerds.
11:05.65
loriejones7
So what is the worst advice someone gave you? Can you think of some really bad advice and did you take it or did you not? Did you learn from it?
11:15.43
Lisa Eyer
So hindsight is so much right and and experience and age and wisdom. um I would have to say now looking back, the one piece of advice that I consider had a profound impact on how I led my life, especially professionally, was to keep my personal personal and my business business, which um there is a lot of wisdom in that conversation. I think sometimes we see a lot of oversharing and in today's
11:49.20
Lisa Eyer
ah generations with social media being so accessible. But I took those comments to heart in such a way that I truly, I think, missed out on building deep relationships that lasted over many, many years.
12:00.14
loriejones7
Mm hmm. Hmm hmm.
12:05.81
Lisa Eyer
ah Instead, you know, I really did try to shield my personal life and my professional life as two separate things.
12:16.01
loriejones7
That's sometimes really hard. like like with I have kids and like occasionally it bleeds out. You got to go get a kid from the doctor's office or you have to interrupt your workday or something like that.
12:23.60
Lisa Eyer
yeah
12:26.29
loriejones7
That's very difficult to keep those completely separate.
12:29.98
Lisa Eyer
It is.
12:37.97
loriejones7
Sorry, it cut out for just a minute.
12:41.40
Lisa Eyer
Yeah, it it definitely is difficult to keep the two completely separated. Life happens.
12:48.00
loriejones7
Yeah. If you um went back and changed that situation, I don't assume you'd probably be like, you know, handing out everything about yourself to everyone you knew, but ah how would you have adjusted and done it differently?
12:58.90
Lisa Eyer
miss
13:03.21
Lisa Eyer
I think that the one change now looking back and being able to apply that you know now as I build relationships is actually making them have some, I think, longevity. Right?
13:18.09
loriejones7
Mm hmm.
13:18.32
Lisa Eyer
More so than just asking, how are you? But really asking, how are you?
13:22.50
loriejones7
Mm hmm.
13:23.37
Lisa Eyer
Right? How's your, you know, how's your family? And really wanting to know the answer because it was going to lead to more questions, right? And and that really getting to know someone ah process that we all go through as we build relationships versus that keeping things more on a business acquaintance level, right? With all of the people that you work with that sit around you and, um you know, Some that I think today when I look back at some of those relationships, I'd love to know where they are and how they're doing and um just tell them that they meant a lot to me um and in the early days.
14:00.13
loriejones7
I like that. I think that's a neat idea. And the idea of you spend a lot of time with these people day in and day out.
14:06.39
Lisa Eyer
Yes.
14:06.78
loriejones7
And um and i I like building those relationships. That's interesting. So what about a situation, if you look back on on your journey and what you've gone through, is there a situation where you're like, oh my gosh, if I knew then what I know now, that would have gone completely differently.
14:28.56
Lisa Eyer
That question is hard, um you know, because we probably encounter those moments every single week, right? And, you know, throughout your career, right? um you know, if I knew that traveling and really getting the most out of every experience, I would have done more of it. I would have taken the trips that were offered, you know, through, through business.
14:56.28
loriejones7
Thank you.
14:58.70
Lisa Eyer
I would have dove deeper into processes to make sure I got every last ounce of knowledge out of them. But sometimes your career path and and your personal life, you you only get that amount of time. And then you're moving on or you're refocusing on something. And so I think those are the moments that I think back to is like, I wish I had had more time or I wish I had gotten you know the opportunity to get more out of that experience.
15:29.33
loriejones7
Mm
15:30.88
loriejones7
It's really interesting that you say that. I actually did mention this on it and and with another woman that I was talking to. I recently went on a trip with my daughter after her graduation. She graduated. And I had the opportunity during one day to decide whether or not to go snorkeling with my daughter, you know ah my youngest, her last graduation trip, or stay and work and um and make up for some people that were maybe out of the office.
15:54.75
Lisa Eyer
Mm-hmm.
15:58.76
loriejones7
i It was the first time I've ever done this, but I chose to go snorkeling with the fishes and and spend time and be present in that moment.
16:01.23
Lisa Eyer
Yeah.
16:08.60
Lisa Eyer
yeah
16:08.73
loriejones7
And I think that is a, that's a really, it, it was really hard for me. I'm sure it's really hard for you to kind of say, you know, in the midst of everything that you're doing, I'm going to be present here.
16:15.15
Lisa Eyer
Mm-hmm.
16:22.01
loriejones7
I'm really suck the life out of whatever this experience is that I'm having.
16:27.03
Lisa Eyer
My daughters will tell you that um if someone was to interview them about their mom, they would say she might have got us to whatever the activity was late, but we did get there. um She might have been a little late picking us up, but we did get picked up. um But in those, you know, joking moments are the reminders that, you know, i I was a single mom. I did have to prioritize and I tried to balance everything. Sometimes I did it well and sometimes not so well. And so to this day, they're both grown adults. They tend to remind me that every once in a while say they were late or had to run extra laps or, you know, I was late picking up.
17:15.32
loriejones7
Well, I was, I, I left my kids at the library two hours every day after school because I was the only one that was there right. And I couldn't get there any sooner. So I get it it.
17:25.00
Lisa Eyer
Yeah.
17:26.80
loriejones7
Life happens. And, and hopefully they say, as they see your success and your growth and, and, you know, the person that you turned out to be and the difference that you've made in this world, they understand that sometimes there's a give and take in that.
17:41.73
Lisa Eyer
I think, you know, they've both grown into, you know, intelligent, independent women that I think see that value. And I'm watching, I'm watching that come to life in them. And that's so rewarding for me.
17:54.96
loriejones7
Yeah. What about um if you could go back and talk to yourself when you were just pounding the pavement trying to get that first job, your 20 year old self really young, what would you tell her?
18:11.70
Lisa Eyer
I think I would say, you know look look up. And that's the same advice I give my youngest daughter right now. um you know You just have to look up sometimes and really look around. I think I was so focused on this path that that I thought I needed to be on, that I think if I had just looked up, um built those relationships ah a little deeper than what I did, I would have probably seen a much broader path in front of me.
18:47.20
Lisa Eyer
And it might have been a little easier of a path, having a bigger support system, knowing what was possible, and making choices then that I may have missed by not looking for those extra ah types of opportunities. so
19:06.01
loriejones7
Do you think if you'd done that, you would have missed on the success that you've had? Or do you think that it would have just augmented and and gotten better and richer and deeper?
19:17.36
Lisa Eyer
it's you know I think life works out the way it's supposed to. That really is my philosophy. But I do think that it may have presented me with more opportunities to accelerate um the path that I was on. um i was I was in a meeting earlier today and I mentioned, I wish I knew things 20 years ago that would have started me on a path of you know, more financial security as an example, right?
19:49.02
Lisa Eyer
If you knew things then 20, 30 years ago that you know now, you probably would spend your money differently, right? So little things like that.
19:56.12
loriejones7
so Yeah, yeah, I think that's so funny that I'm, i I call myself a Roth evangelist. And I'm like, I get those kids when they get their first job. And I'm like, let me tell you about Roth. This is exciting.
20:08.93
Lisa Eyer
Yeah.
20:09.12
loriejones7
It's gonna change your life. And, and I've convinced some of them. I had one of my nieces come to me recently. She's like, you know, that one account you were talking about for a really long time, I think I'm ready to open that.
20:21.57
Lisa Eyer
That's exactly it.
20:24.32
loriejones7
So what about As you started out, what scared you the most and does it still scare you or did you, did you figure out how to handle it?
20:34.45
Lisa Eyer
I think everything scared me honestly, i you know, I So I lost my mom at a really young age. So I lost part of my support system and ah My siblings are all much older than I am. I was definitely the last The last ah of you know, 11 year gap between me and my brother that's next to me in age so I I think it was just a support system, right? Everything I felt like I was doing on my own and um I couldn't afford to fail.
21:03.09
loriejones7
Mm hmm.
21:06.28
Lisa Eyer
it just wasn't something that could happen. And so, you know, I planted this thought in my head, which ah may sound a little weird, but, you know, something's only new for like the first few minutes or seconds, and then it's not new anymore. So you have experience. So I, you know, I convinced myself I was gaining experience and leaps and bounds in minutes. so that you know I had the experience. Now i could you know I could go do it better and different and and keep learning and doing it better and different. So that's kind of how I you know fake faked myself into thinking that you know there was nothing to be afraid of. It was only gonna be new for just a few minutes and then it wouldn't be new anymore.
21:49.39
loriejones7
Hmm. I actually like that idea. Um, gives you a little bit of courage. Sometimes you have to talk to yourself and be like, yeah, this is new. It's different. But if you don't try it, you might regret not trying more than you do being scared or looking dumb.
22:00.88
Lisa Eyer
Yeah.
22:05.79
Lisa Eyer
Yeah. Now, that does not work for me with heights. I have not been able to get it to translate to um you know skydiving, ziplining, any of those things. so but But it does work for me professionally and and for other things.
22:16.33
loriejones7
Uh, well,
22:19.96
loriejones7
I get that too. I'm terrified of mice. like Mice are like this big. They scare the heck out of me. If I see one in the house, they can have the house all move. It's fine. What about um throughout your career journey, did you face any unique challenges because you were a woman? It sounds like you were a single mom. There might have been some challenges there.
22:43.11
Lisa Eyer
I remember going to an interview um and it was kind of that first big move from, you know, kind of staff hourly to my first management position. And so it was really meant a lot. um I wanted that position so badly. And I remember interviewing with ah the female executive that ran the division at the time and interviews were done in these you know group settings where you sometimes had to go through you know five interviews and then you got in front of a group that looked like a firing squad of eight people, right? So that's kind of how how you got to the next level and made it through those job interviews. But I remember interviewing with her
23:28.67
Lisa Eyer
And she asked me a question that I think changed my perception about balancing family and career. And the question was, if you were asked today to relocate to another site, would you do it?
23:51.91
Lisa Eyer
And I said, ah my response was, I would really have to think about that. Like my my children are here, they have their relationships, I would have to consider it. And then the next the question was, would you prioritize this job over time with your family? And I thought, wow, what what a strange question. I was in my 20s, late 20s, and I remember thinking,
24:23.37
Lisa Eyer
I really don't know. I think it would depend on what what I was asked to do and you know what the trade-off was. That was definitely the wrong answer.
24:32.53
loriejones7
you
24:34.54
Lisa Eyer
I did not get the position and the the irony of looking back you know on that moment is I think I answered the question exactly right for me at that point in time. And you know my career journey obviously continued and continued on a different path. That interview gave me the courage to step out of that business division and go try something different in another business division altogether. And that was the start of a great different job trajectory for me. so
25:10.93
Lisa Eyer
You know, I think it worked out, but I just remember thinking, again, standards have changed, right? We bring our lives to work now where we didn't at that point in time.
25:18.65
loriejones7
Mm
25:21.81
Lisa Eyer
It was very generational, completely different timeframe in women's careers.
25:21.95
loriejones7
hmm. Mm hmm.
25:27.38
Lisa Eyer
But I remember thinking at that point, I can never really like share my personal life too much or I i will not get opportunities.
25:38.09
loriejones7
That's really an interesting, and insightful statement because because it has changed and I know that I would never expect any of my team to prioritize a work obligation over a family. And sometimes you do have those ebbs and flows.
25:52.60
Lisa Eyer
Right.
25:55.09
loriejones7
Like, you know, your kids get picked up three hours late at the library because you've got to do something at work or something like that.
25:58.59
Lisa Eyer
Yeah.
26:00.51
loriejones7
But but um but that it's interesting that that how that change has happened and the fact that that you were there at the beginning of that and and saw it done a different way.
26:10.28
Lisa Eyer
Yeah.
26:17.69
Lisa Eyer
i think and I think it colors the way we go through our career and how we think about things, how we open up or don't open up about relationships and you know our families, and then really learning the value as we get further along in our career and more confident about you know our our place that we just decide it's time to bring you know your whole family um you know into the relationship.
26:44.94
loriejones7
Yeah, I remember very distinctly one time asking them to take off the company website, how many kids I had, because I didn't want, um, I didn't want that to be, Oh, she's too busy. She can't, you know, she, she can't do this because she's too busy.
27:00.46
Lisa Eyer
Yeah.
27:02.03
loriejones7
So I find that really interesting. Have you seen the change? of his It feels to me like as as women, we're bringing more authenticity, like we're allowed to wear colors instead of black suits all the time, like those sorts of things.
27:19.00
Lisa Eyer
Yeah, I think it's changed a lot and and all of it for the better because I think we contribute more when we feel like we can be who we really are. Um, whether you have a family or you don't have a family or you have a puppy at home, right? That has a puppy daycare, right? It doesn't matter what that thing is, but as long as you can be genuine, I think that's what matters. And that's, that's what I think has changed over time.
27:47.19
loriejones7
And I think you were probably a little lucky, Lisa, that you didn't get that job. If those were the couple of questions that they asked you, maybe they maybe you dodged a bullet there, right?
27:56.59
Lisa Eyer
I know that those senior leaders, especially at that time, were putting in lots and lots of hours and it was just expected. And my personality is such that I probably would have put in the hours anyway because I just, I just would.
28:13.83
loriejones7
Right.
28:15.25
Lisa Eyer
But the question, I think, is what kind of threw me off. And um i mean i i and I answered the way I wanted to be straightforward in my response. so
28:29.84
loriejones7
What Lisa are you most proud of?
28:34.48
Lisa Eyer
It has to go back to my my kids probably. you know It's the hardest job I've ever had. It really is. And it never ends. ah you know They are adults. They have their own lives. They have their own careers. um You never stop worrying. You hope that you did everything right to help carry them through whatever adversity they could go through. and it's just, it's the hardest job and it's also the most rewarding and fulfilling job that you can have. And so that's what I'm most proud of. I'm proud of giving them travel experiences and making them think broader about their capabilities and you know, what they can accomplish in life or what they don't want to accomplish, right? Just kind of taking that time to rest and try to give some wisdom on, you know, if you have 10 minutes to sit and think, sit and think it's it's time well invested.
29:31.47
loriejones7
I like that it feels like, um, like that is a big important job. Like that is you're crafting the next generation, um, and, and making a whole person it's, it's hard, but so rewarding.
29:45.79
Lisa Eyer
Yeah.
29:51.75
loriejones7
What about if you could talk to a young lady and who's just starting down her career path, young, um enthusiastic? um how would you What advice would you give her so that she could one day end up as successful as you?
30:09.87
Lisa Eyer
So I did an interview with oh the Bold Collective. Lee hosts that. And one of the topics that we did was around kind of young women and trying to give them advice. And the the piece of advice I still think resonates is invest your time in relationships that invest back and relationships that don't leave them to the side. because you will spend too much time trying to build something out of nothing, right? There are people that will be acquaintances. There are people that will be your best friends or good friends for a lifetime. And then there are, you know, this this other group of folks that you should just move on from.
31:17.02
Lisa Eyer
Well, Lori, that must have been so profound that our internet connection dropped.
31:17.15
loriejones7
Sorry.
31:22.15
loriejones7
yeah Yeah, I know. Do you want to try again?
31:28.07
Lisa Eyer
So yes. So the advice I would give would be invest in the relationships that invest in you. Walk away from the relationships that are not going to give you any return at all. Always be you know professional and polite, of course. but make sure that you're investing your time wisely. It is the most important thing you own is your time.
31:53.99
loriejones7
So can you tell which relationships are investing in you? Like what's the, how do you, how do you figure those out, especially when you're 20?
32:04.27
Lisa Eyer
I think it's a little harder when you're 20, but I still think your basic instincts will say, if I'm always the one you know, starting the conversation, checking on you and Lori, you never return my calls or my messages. We don't keep in touch. Um, I think you just have to make a decision. Is that relationship still worth it or not? Because it is time invested and put that time in that bucket. That is the most valuable place you can put it.
32:37.69
loriejones7
And that's, ah that's really, that's something I'm going to think about because that's really good advice, you know, to, to think about what, what you're putting out there. You do only have a finite amount of time. And if you're spending it trying to make everyone happy or everyone like you, and you're not getting a lot back in some of those relationships, maybe it's time to rethink that. I like that Lisa. Thank you.
33:04.51
Lisa Eyer
You're welcome. like I need to take my own advice sometimes, for sure.
33:09.70
loriejones7
We all do, right? so Well, thank you so, so much for spending some time and just chatting and lending your experience. can If we've got young listeners that want to get in touch with you and ask you questions, or um how would they do that?
33:24.58
Lisa Eyer
Look me up on LinkedIn. Send me a message. I'm always available and I'll get back to you, for sure.
33:33.50
loriejones7
Lisa, thank you so much. I appreciate it.
33:36.56
Lisa Eyer
Have a great day.